Leading Southern Baptist Affirms Doctrine of Election

John L. Dagg (1794-1884) served as a pastor in Philadelphia and in other parishes, was an educator in Alabama, led Mercer University as its president, and authored the first systematic theology text by a Baptist in America. Paige Patterson states of him:

If one wishes to know what most Baptists believed during the formative days of the Southern Baptist Convention, he will discover it in this volume [Manual of Theology]. With remarkable insight, John Leadley Dagg–pastor, theologian, evangelist, teacher, and college president–presents the essence of biblical truth in a thoroughly readable, yet scholarly, presentation. The indefatigable spirit of this early Baptist thinker, who suffered numerous physical reversals, glows with experiential insight into the crucial doctrines honored by Baptists everywhere. Every pastor, professor, and seminary student should avail himself of the opportunity to become acquainted with one of the most sublime of our Baptist fathers.”

Dagg’s systematic theology contains a chapter entitled ‘Sovereignty of Grace,’ in which he writes:

“God bestows the blessings of His grace, not according to the works of the recipient, but according to His own sovereign pleasure (2 Tim 1:9; Rom 9:16; Phil 2:13; Matt 11:25; Luke 10:21; Eph 2:4-9). God is sovereign in doing what He pleases, uncontrolled by any other being. . . . No superior being exists, who can dictate to Jehovah what He should do, or hinder Him from the execution of His pleasure, or call Him to account for anything that He has done. Sovereignty is to be distinguished from arbitrariness. In the latter, the will of the agent directs the action, without reference to a wise or good purpose to be accomplished. When God acts, it is according to His good pleasure. His pleasure is good, because it is always directed to a good end. He is sovereign in His acts, because His acts are determined by His own perfections. He has a rule for what He does; but this rule is not prescribed to Him by any other being, nor does it exist independently of Himself. It is found in His own nature. In His acts, His nature is unfolded and displayed. . . . As He is sovereign in creation and providence, so He is sovereign in the dispensation of His grace.”

The first section within this chapter deals with the doctrine of election is simply entitled, ‘Election.’ Dagg says of this doctrine:

“All who will finally be saved, were chosen to salvation by God the Father, before the foundation of the world, and given to Jesus Christ in the covenant of grace (Eph 1:4-5; 2 Thess 2:13; 1 Pet 1:2; 2:9; John 6:37; Rom 8:33; John 10:27-29). The doctrine of election encounters strong opposition in the hearts of men, and it is therefore necessary to examine thoroughly its claim to our belief. As it relates to an act of the divine mind, no proof of its truth can be equal to the testimony of the Scriptures. Let us receive their teachings on the subject without hesitation or distrust; and let us require every preconceived opinion of ours, and all our carnal reasonings, to bow before the authority of God’s holy word. The Scriptures clearly teach, that God has an elect or chosen people [Rom 8:33; 1 Pet 1:2; Luke 18:7; 1 Pet 2:9; 2 Thess 2:13; Eph 1:4]. Whatever may have been our prejudices against the doctrine of election as held and taught by some ministers of religion, it is undeniable that, in some sense, the doctrine is found in the Bible; and we cannot reject it, without rejecting that inspired book. We are bound by the authority of God, to receive the doctrine; and nothing remains, but that we should make an honest effort to understand it, just as it is taught in the sacred volume. The Scriptures teach expressly, that God’s people are chosen to salvation. . . .

The national election comprehended all Israel, according to the flesh: but the election of grace included only those who will finally be saved. . . . The Scriptures plainly teach that the election of grace is from eternity. . . . Election is a part of God’s eternal purpose. Had it been His purpose to save all the human race, there would have been no elect from among men; no peculiar people, no redeemed out of every nation. But His purpose to save did not include all the race; and therefore, on some principle yet to be inquired into, some of the race have been selected, who will receive the kingdom prepared for them from the foundation of the world. . . .

. . . . It necessarily follows, that election is not on the ground of foreseen faith or obedience. On this point, the teachings of Scripture are clear. They are chosen not because of their holiness, but that they may be holy (Eph 1:4); not because of their obedience, but unto obedience (1 Pet 1:2). . . . The Scriptures teach that election is according to the foreknowledge of God (1 Pet 1:2). We are, however, not to understand the foreknowledge here mentioned, to be foreknowledge of faith or good works. Faith and good works do not exist, before the grace consequent on election begins to be bestowed; and therefore a foresight of them is impossible. Moreover, the objects of this divine foreknowledge are the persons of the elect, and not their faith or good works. . . . From a state of condemnation, God, according to His purpose in election, delivers some by His renewing grace, and this is no injury or disadvantage done to the rest. . . .

God requires all men to believe in Christ; and this is their duty, however unwilling they may be to perform it. The fact that they are unwilling, and that God knows they will remain unwilling, unless He change their hearts, abates nothing from the sincerity of the requirement. God proves His sincerity, by holding them to the obligation, and condemning their unbelief. He promises salvation to all who believe in Christ; and He proves His sincerity, by fulfilling His promise in every instance. . . . Sinful men are indeed reprobated, not by the election of grace, but by the justice of God. . . .”

Dagg makes some very strong statements regarding those who do not affirm the doctrine of election:

“Not content with the God whom the Bible reveals, and who does according to His pleasure in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth, we carve out to ourselves a deity more amiable, in our view, than He. . . . We aim to free Him from the responsibility of determining who shall be saved; and we form the plan, and fix the terms of salvation, with the design of rendering the result contingent on the actions of men. . . . Every proposed method of salvation that leaves the issue dependent on human volition, is defective. It has been always found, that men will not come to Christ for life. The gospel is preached to every creature; but all, with one consent, ask to be excused. The will of men must be changed; and this change the will itself cannot effect. Divine grace must here interpose. Unless God work in the sinner to will and to do, salvation is impossible. . . .

What God says, is true, whether men receive or reject it. . . . It is a test of genuine faith, that it cordially receives those parts of divine truth which are least acceptable to the carnal heart. Hence it arises, that the doctrine of election, or, which is the same thing, of God’s sovereignty in the bestowment of His grace, often becomes the point at which a sinner’s submission to God is tested. When this doctrine is cordially received, the sinner’s rebellion against God ceases. When he yields to the sovereignty of God in bestowing eternal life at His pleasure, He admits sovereignty in everything else. How much soever he may permit the monarch of the universe to do what He pleases in smaller matters, if he refuses to yield to His sovereignty in the matter of highest importance, his submission to God is partial, and the spirit of rebellion has not departed.”

Thank you for tuning in to this week’s edition of “Theology on Thursday.”

22 Comments

  1. Also were we get the term, Dagg-nabbit!

    What God says, is true, whether men receive or reject it. . . . It is a test of genuine faith, that it cordially receives those parts of divine truth which are least acceptable to the carnal heart.

    Wow.

  2. And everyone at the Kelley homestead said: AMEN!

  3. Dang! Dagg sounds liike a Calvinist of the particular persuasion. I’m sure someone will burst my bubble and tell me Dagg is uncomfortable with limited atonement prefering a more Evangelical term. Then they will tell me he is uncomfortable with irrestible grace.

    I’ve read what you have provided and I like it, now be gentle with me when you tell me I am wrong about Dagg being Calvinist, I mean a real Calvinist.

  4. Charles – Is there any other kind of “Calvinist”?

    You need to go back and re-read over my posts and comments. As I’ve said time and again, I hold to the doctrines of “limited atonement” and “irresistible grace,” but I think those are poor terms for those particular doctrines. I prefer particular redemption, or better yet, substitutionary atonement; and I prefer overcoming grace or efficacious grace.

    Am I being gentle enough, Charles?

  5. Something I’d pay to hear:

    Dagg being interviewed by a modern SBC pulpit search committee.

  6. Thanks for the spanky link, btw. I will return the favor as soon as I come up with a cool Trekkie name for your blog.

  7. Gordan,

    He wouldn’t be! They would screen him out after the first phone call.
    Dagg wouldn’t get his foot in the door. In florida, his DOM would just get him kicked out anyway, after he moved there!!!

    A friend of mine who is a Hebrew course away from graduation from Southern spoke with a church this week and their first question was if he was a calvinist. He said maybe, depending what the pulpit comittee chair meant. He was told that a calvinist was anyone who believed that the bible teaches that God elects.

    Period.

    He later, found out in the course of the conversation that the church doesn’t have deacons because all the men feel they’re not worthy. So committees run everything and its worked o.k. since the 1970’s.

    Our convention needs to learn again what GRACE is. God’s grace elects and calls, holds and sustains, equips and sanctifies by the Holy Spirit and through Christ’s work on the Cross. We need to recover a biblical doctrine of GRACE in our convention.

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  9. Ron,

    I know Dagg wouldn’t get very far, but I’d still pay to hear him give ‘em their what-fors.

  10. Wow…
    This Dagg guy really pulled no punches. If all Pastors and Theologians stated their positions so strongly and plainly these days!

    Is there any more God-glorifying set of truths than these?

    Don’t they make you just sit back on awe of God when you read them?

    wow…

  11. Excellent Post! You really point out the line that the Scriptures has drawn for us!

    God Bless,
    Yogi

  12. Dagg was one of the founding fathers of the Southern Baptist Convention and one of its finest Theologians. It’s too bad that the SBC has apostasied. Its time for all who believe The Doctrines of grace [Southern Baptists, and independents] to unite and form a fellowship of churches, and the pastors and elders of each local assembly having an equal vote and share in the governing of the fellowship.

    Paul W. Foltz DD

  13. Paul: If SBCers and Independents united, do you believe division would inevitably result? For example, you describe yourself as a “A Sovereign Grace Preacher…King James Bible only; Pre-Tribulation snatching away of The Church, Holding to the Dispensational view of the Bible.” Many who hold to the doctrines of grace would be on the same footing with you as a ‘Sovereign Grace preacher,’ but not see eye-to-eye regarding the KJV or Dispensationalism. What do you think?

  14. Read a new article on the doctrine of election at:

    http://www.youmustbesaved.com/preview_052.htm

    See what you think.

    God Bless!

  15. Eschatology differences mean little, if believe in Doctrines of Grace, I can fellowship with.
    I’M going to SOVEREIGN GRACE CONFERENCE AT DENHAM BAPTIST CHURCH IN WAYNESBORO, MS, October 4-8, WHERE PRE, POST, AND A-mILLENNISTS FELLOWSHIP AROUND THE DOCTRINES OF GRACE. Preachers from the SBC, AND INDEPENDENT BAPTISTS will be there. Come on down-

  16. I have an original copy of Dagg’s Manual of theology. It was always a great pleasure to read what he had written. Seems like I recall his having been converted upon reading Thomas Boston’s Human Nature in Its Fourfold State. Any one know?

  17. Dr. Willingham:
    Boston’s ‘Fourfold State’ was indeed instrumental in Dagg’s conversion, as was Slackhouse’s History of the Bible.

  18. I have Boston’s Human Nature in Its Fourfold State. I also have Fisher’s Marrow of Divinity which was behind the marrow men of Scotland, etc. These works need to be reconsidered in our study of evangelism and how it works. I just praise God for the insights I gathered by a close study of these and other writers of those times long ago. Even Dr. John Gill is far better than a lot of people give him credit for. I came across the record of one gentleman (I think he was around a 100 yrs of age) who was converted while setting in a rocking chair on his front porch in America and recalling a sermon by Gill that he had heard back in England as a lad. That sermon remembered led to his conversion. Man, I would not mind having that happen to some of the people I have preached to over the past 50 yrs. Let us seek God’s favor for a Third Great Awakening, one that will win the whole earth in one generation and even for a thousand generations.

  19. If this should be directed to another topic site please advise, although I will begin here. 1. Simply put, I concur that the doctrine of election is as stated by Dagg. 2.While at a bible study recently, due to the topic at hand I questioned the group if they believed in predestination. Is predestination and doctrine of election easily confused with one another–their meanings? OR am I the one that is CONFUSED. Predestination to me is that God knows all and is all powerful, therefore knows everything that is planned for my life. The path of my life, every detail. Of course with the important aspect of free will on my part, but God allows me that, and as the final result though, all outcomes are according to His will. The teacher acted as though I paid an insult when I stated that question to that group.
    Please un-confuse me!

    • Laury:

      Thanks for dropping by 2WC. The doctrines of predestination and election are intertwined. Predestination has to do with things following God’s set, ordained plan. Election has to do with God choosing individuals for salvation. Some, like yourself, hold that predestination has to do with God’s foreknowledge of all things. That is, God infallibly knows what will come to pass in accordance with the free will of individuals, etc. Others, like me, hold that God’s purpose is what drives predestination and that His foreknowledge has to do not only with what He foresees but what He has planned from before creation. In other words, we believe God (not man) is ultimately the deciding factor in what comes to pass. This does not negate free will / free agency / human responsibility. It means that God’s sovereign will shall not be thwarted.

      Sometimes, when addressing the issue of predestination, folks in churches become uncomfortable. Predestination is not generally popular in American congregations due to the American emphasis upon democracy, free will, individual autonomy, etc. That may explain the response of your teacher.

      Please let me know if you need any clarification or have other questions.

  20. Greetings. This is a personal struggle for me, that has gripped me for several months. Last fall, I approached my pastor for some advice/counseling due to some rough ground my husband and I were encountering. No marraige is perfect, right.? One of the first things I heard was, “why don’t you just get a divorce??” It was good that I was sitting down, because of the disbelief of what I heard. Not what I expected. At the end of this meeting a prayer was led, it was stated that the Holy Spirit would know what exactly to pray for, for they did not know themselves what to say. This same pastor has had problems with disipline issues with select children in confirmation instruction class. I have witnessed this myself. The solution is to have a parent sit in on the class most every week, in lieu of teaching the children respect & discipline themself. Up until these occurences, I found pleasure and joy worshiping weekly in church. Now, still after all this time has passed, it continues to feel as though a hole of doubt has ripped through me, regarding whether I can accept and respect this person as a pastor. Pastor has been at this church for 15 yrs. I have been there for 19 yrs. My attendance at church has dropped to nearly nothing and I feel terrible for this whole situation. Could some new perspective be given so as to assist in resolving this issue. Thanks

    • Laury:
      First let me say that I’m glad you and your husband sought pastoral counsel for your marriage. Pastors should always be willing and able to help Christian couples with the issues they are facing.
      Second, I’m quite distressed to hear this pastor suggested divorce as a remedy. I hope that you and your husband have sought godly advice elsewhere to help you with your marriage. This might come from another pastor in the area whom you respect as being grounded in Scripture and having a good reputation. It might also come through an older couple in the congregation, a couple whose marriage and family are known to be centered upon Christ and His Kingdom.
      Third, I would suggest you and your husband speak with the pastor regarding what he said. It could be that you misunderstood him. If you find that was not the case, you might ask why he suggested divorce. If he in fact suggested divorce, please tell him your concerns and doubts and that you believe it is a great cause for concern. Do you have the option of speaking with the other church leaders (elders, deacons, etc.) regarding the situation? If so, I would take it to them (after speaking/clarifying with the pastor).
      Fourth, if you find no resolution in your church, I would advise (though reluctantly) finding a church home where you know there is a priority placed upon the preaching of God’s Word and the living out of the Christian life in a godly manner. If you come to this point and feel comfortable doing so, please let me know (via e-mail) the area where you live and I will try to look up some churches there for you.
      I’ll be praying for you and your husband, Laury.


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